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is going to talk down romney's chance of winning. they are going to show mr. obama way up in the polls, so republicans go why even bother voting. >> stephanie: there we go again. reporting the actual polls, karl. >> did you assume for a minute that you could use numbers without being accused of being a liberal, and this is what the republicans are doing. for the last couple of weeks it has been, look, the polls are really tight. and for a while they had a point there, the national polls were really tight. but we don't elect our president by the national polls. it is through the electoral college. >> stephanie: yeah. and the other number he apparently didn't want to mention is the fox news poll. which shows obama way ahead. >> that's where things get inconvenient. >> stephanie: yeah. he is at the point where he is approaching double digits in florida, ohio and virginia and the calculus said -- calculus from my right-wing friends is an advanced form of math -- the calculus said if romney didn't win florida he could not come up with the electorates to win at all. and now no
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